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this is James Randi and you're listening

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Oh

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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show number 94 the ninth of July 2010

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Richard Saunders here with you from

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beautiful downtown Las Vegas joining me

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for the intro at this very noisy

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Hawaiian restaurant is dr. a chief i

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Richard how are you well I'm I'm tam dao

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time I must say we've had a huge Taman

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it was just finished today it is today

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was the end of time it was after two and

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a half days three days of non-stop I

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don't know how many days Moscow I'm

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completely lost count and yeah I'm

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completely confused and dazed but you

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know it is called the amazing meeting

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and this is my first time yeah it was

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and people asked me what it was like and

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I said it's amazing and then didn't

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realize I was saying that but you know

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it it's amazing it is an incredible

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meeting it's amazing and it's so much

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more than just the lineup you know you

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can look at the lineup of speakers and

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think wow it's going to be great to see

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Phil Plait and Richard Dawkins and but

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it's so much more than that you know

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it's really about

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a whole group of skeptical colleagues

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getting together exchanging ideas

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talking to each other learning about

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what each other's up to and it's just

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it's it's an overwhelming isn't it one

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might say amazing one might not say that

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because that would be a cliche yeah but

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I I mean I didn't I thought I thought I

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knew what to expect when I came here on

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Tuesday but I had no idea as long as you

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didn't expect to sleep well I didn't

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just know I didn't get any sleep you can

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tell by the fact that i can't speak

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anymore i haven't had much sleep in fact

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not most people didn't really have much

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sleep you could tell that by today with

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ya everyone was walking around

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bleary-eyed and looking a little bit

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like they've been a mere whacked with a

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stick or something but yeah we had over

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there was a record number of attendees

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this year over 30 visits thirteen thirty

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percent increase on last year so yeah

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over 1300 as you know this year there's

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Tom London again the second one this is

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going to be Tam Australia the first one

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and there's one in Geneva or Zurich next

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year I think next year yeah so they're

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just spreading all over the globe and

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yeah I'm be no it was funny because you

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and I plan to get here two days early to

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try to recover to the time zone and just

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as we said naively chill out a little

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bit before tam started we we didn't have

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any time to do that did we I mean that

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the conference properly started on

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Thursday Tuesday afternoon there were

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people here Wednesday half the delegates

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were here so we hit the ground running

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as soon as we got into vegas and we

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haven't stopped until now and i think

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i'm going to collapse while you collapse

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doctor 'he will get on with the rest of

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the show this show it covers the first

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part of our trip here to the amazing

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meeting leaving sydney and put some

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pieces along the way and then will flash

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back to Sydney where we recorded a think

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tank with our good friend Maynard

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before we left and Kyle Easter just

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joined us to which was interesting yeah

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that was great Kylie was in town for

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another conference and we managed to

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rope her into doing a think tank from my

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front room that's yes that's coming up a

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bit later in the show but let's start

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off this episode of the skeptic zone

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and it's hello from Sydney Airport beats

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the the sixth of July I'm here having a

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quick sandwich with a racial Dunlop and

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Joe Benna mu as we wait for our flight

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and I must say it's we should rename

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this place the powerband Sydney Airport

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Rachel I've just tweeted that we've just

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seen in the space of two hours three

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people wearing power balance bracelets

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including the lady who checked us into

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delta yes which was really weird because

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she was very slow wasn't she she was

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lovely but a bit slow let me but she

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maybe it has adjusted his chakra so much

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that she was I don't know I don't know

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another world or something anyway we're

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just having a quick bite and a cup of

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coffee and then we'll head over to the

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departure gate and we'll be off Joe

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much so I just have to say about those

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tab bracelets the thing that gets me

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every time I see him and see him and see

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them is that they just look so

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incredibly cheap and tacky i'm sorry i'm

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nomming but they're not a good fashion

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statement I'll say that no they do they

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looked awful and you got one Richard

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from when you did your today tonight

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story which hasn't aired yet yeah and I

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looked at it and it looks like cheap

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touch it no yeah it is because they only

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cost about 3 cents to make anyway yeah

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but i mean i don't think i would

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consider that sixty five dollars well

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spent to tell you the truth absolutely

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not also made the observation just then

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that she was wondering what these people

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who we just saw at the coffee shop where

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at what are they doing for them right

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now because they're not lifting things

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are not flexing things they're not

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playing sport like an airport what

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anyway they're enhancing their

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well-being and zest and wellness yeah

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that means nothing Richard gibberish if

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you are

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visitor without a waiver who are

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nationals countries participating in the

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visa waiver program you'll need a green

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household that's the one we get degree

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now we might believe that back relax and

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we're on our way dr. AG we are we are

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I'm sitting here like a massive nerd

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watching the wing move around which we

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got a great view of the wing I must say

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right over the wing and when we started

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off the wing was kind of quiet Kahn best

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than the pressure on top of the wing

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it's kind of sitting up now it is yeah

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yeah I could see curving up it's coming

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up and before it was quiet notably

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curving down well I just think

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engineering is awesome dude is science

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man another 30 we've got another 13

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hours to admire before we get to LA yeah

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in between that we've got noms though

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Richard was I just described to us yeah

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so I'm gonna be watching the wing for 13

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hours hehe ah welcome to wonderful Los

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Angeles dr. Richie hi dr. Richard Hawaii

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well what an interesting time we're

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actually at the moment at LAX in transit

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to go to Vegas and wasn't that a

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nightmare hi mojo how you can cast but

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otherwise fine I've never waited so long

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for my bags yeah that was amazing and

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the queue for the passport control was

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in laying slow yeah and we have and we

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did have to actually explain what the

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convention was that we were going to get

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rich and as your thoughts I said we

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hopefully even cycles i just said as

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educational sleeve derived you slept on

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the plane more than we did anyway ah

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that's right we hardly had any sleep I

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gotta say I got to say I'm delirious

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yeah Mike's but now we're standing in a

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little terminal of Delta here in LAX

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wind fly to UM Vegas yeah I mean we had

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a dream two hours in between flyers yeah

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we've just arrived with minutes to spare

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we thought that we'd have time for a

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coffee and a shower and

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walk around Joe's quite likely to become

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homicidal ooh she doesn't get a cup

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freezer we better let Joe go and get a

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coffee and give it a she-bear speaking

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of herself in third person I'd be

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concerned there's jet lag folks it's the

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wonderful thing of travel Joe quickly

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run and get a coffee and we'll wait for

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you here this is the first night at the

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i can't remember the name of this bar

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what's this bar called the bill maher

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lounge delmar lounge dr. H E and enjoy

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we're still awake after 30 hours I know

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is it mad actually which is just on the

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quiet yes Joe has gone a little bit mad

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has she yeah because look look at her

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eyes look at that yes we see Julie

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Fisher daughter Jojo what's up well I've

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been wearing the same clothes were

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coming up to about thirty two hours and

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I've just had a glass of scotch which

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was probably not a good idea and Delta's

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left my baggage in LA so I'm not happy

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that's about all i see that was such a

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nice toy he did now we're sir we're

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amazed didn't control

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brave does serene but we're amazed

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because of course it's too only Tuesday

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here and we're in the bar here and it's

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full of skeptics trucker agent it is

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there must be 20 yeah at least us

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skeptics already here yeah many of them

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locals actually although we've just met

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Neil from her yeah it's come all the way

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from her for Tammy it's very first time

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and there's been here from the UK yeah

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and most everybody else is us-based and

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they're here I know so early I'm really

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surprised thought we'd come here and

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we'd beat one or two people maybe early

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birds we did I mean based on our

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experiences last year at DragonCon where

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we turned up a couple of days early and

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there was nobody that's right that's

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right nothing at all so it's great that

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everyone's here already it's nice to see

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some old friends do some from past times

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and past meetings that sort of sitting

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all around the bar here it's fantastic

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I've got to say that Richard I do have

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one observation about this casino yeah

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where are the fish tanks and mountains

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that's right that's right yeah I I

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haven't we haven't you been I haven't

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been to the strip yet but the thing that

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we are most was most synonymous about

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casinos in Australia is the big

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you know garish vishnu yeah Gary she

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shrinks and also garish waterfalls or

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delays a life changing colors and about

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here it's kind of weird it's a bit

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strange but boy there is a lot here

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because they're the cinema the bowling

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alley the equestrian arena the swimming

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pool and many many many nomming

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opportunities many not many

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opportunities and but you don't want to

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want you don't want to leave the

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premises because it is currently about

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40 degrees Celsius and outside yeah you

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don't want the moment yeah but

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unfortunately but fortunately we have a

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pool we have a pool that we will should

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I will have to try that delightful

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laughs you can hear listeners is none

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other than Dale Roy hi Dale hello and

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it's travis hi Travis hey how's it going

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Rick oh it's really well throw that in

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front of me we're here in the great hall

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outside the grand ballroom where our

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tables are set up it's thursday morning

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is it still morning notes just gone

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afternoon it's the first sort of really

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official day of the amazing meeting yeah

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and already it's busy and things are

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happening yes since I think it's much

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busier this thursday than it was last

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year on thursday yeah yeah and we have

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our table set up with many other tables

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here outside this year instead of inside

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where all the speakers are but that's

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okay I can I can deal with that and our

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magazines from Australian skeptics and

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t-shirts from town Australia are selling

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really well people are having a great

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time picking those up and I like your

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shirt Travis my boy it's the new design

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skeptic zone shirt yes yes I did that

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for you it's a spoof on what's it called

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hungry jacks hungry jacks or Burger King

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what about yeah yeah so yeah no I did

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that up for you I gave feature you guys

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some some shirts and some buttons so and

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i'll send you the graphic and you can

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get them made up for yourself all the

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smart people without all the cool kids

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are wearing and that's what they say i

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even have one yeah there you go I was

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not wearing it today well it's been a

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hectic couple of days 4dr EG joanne and

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myself and Iran so give us your mouth

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and we're being busy and it's hardly

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even begun so on we go I just thought

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was something to do well wednesday no

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it's Thursday mostly that's how Jack

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lagged I am Thursday is moving on it's a

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bit quiet now in the in the great

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corridor outside the grand ballroom and

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kitty Mervyn has shown up hi kitty oh

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hello Richard it's nice to see you again

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now you surprised me last night with a

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wonderful hat that you needed for me yes

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I did I i enjoy knitting it's a fun

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hobby and i decided to do a knit hat

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with flying pigs are knit two of it to

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represent the j rough of course it was

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very clever natured you're wearing your

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power balance bracelet here i see um

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have you noticed any changes and how you

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feel yeah somehow I feel hungry when I'm

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wearing it I can't understand it can you

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can you consume more beer without

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getting you drunk oh yeah you have to

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take it off and then the alcohol if it's

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me hates me see oh okay because I'm

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letting you test it for me before I

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spend my $65 and purchase my own but you

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know now Kitty you um come to us from

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the

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Travis and I make a very good team we

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did a wonderful haunted house

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investigation unfortunately the only

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ghosts we saw was Travis's nice who

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decided to come and play a trick on us

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but we caught her so and we've had a lot

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of fun and a lot of get togethers and

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I've gone to some wonderful alien UFO oh

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you gave me you gave me an alien sure

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last year I remember to you yes yes

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because New Hampshire is where Betty and

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Barney Hill were abducted by aliens so

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they're one of the first people to be

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abducted so it's something people are

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very interested in the state and we've

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met many many times over the years the

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first time I met you was on the amazing

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cruise to Alaska on memories from that

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fond memory from that and I've seen you

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I think at every temps in so yeah I five

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actually attended every United States

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town Wow including the first one wow so

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very proud of that and and I would say

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that the Alaska cruise I surprised you

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because you were doing origami and I did

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some origami for you you did and that

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was a surprise great to see you kidding

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yes great to see you too now I'm

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delighted the dan green hi dad oh hi I'm

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delighted dan green has come up to say

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hello to me and he's given me a

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fantastic set of cards they're like

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mystical Karen spirit animal cards

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worthy you shuffle them up and you get

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someone to choose the card that's drawn

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to them and they flip them over and

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they've got a choice of their spirit

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animal guide or something like that over

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your choice the animal chooses down the

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animal chooses them once they gather

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they're stuck with it and it could be

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the body louse for example or the

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tapeworm I see the vampire bat the naked

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mole rat the jumping spider the dung

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beetle these are all Noble know

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animals guide and direct people through

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the spirit world the blobfish and all

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the photographs a disgusting of these

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animals so dan green I sincerely I thank

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you for coming up saying hello and

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giving me these wonderful cards I was a

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wonderful way to start my Tam the

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first 2003 when I took the stage fort

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lauderdale florida and welcome to about

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250 people idea was to the opening night

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of the very first the amazing meeting

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and as fabulous as that and was few of

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us could have guessed that fear at the

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amazing 88 we would cross the threshold

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hey

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conference of skeptics and critical

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thinkers and it's going to get bigger

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scale this is just a start so I am

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delighted that girl here tonight we put

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together a very special event for you

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something that we really have to talk

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about and tell the rest of the folks

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about who are not coming in until

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tomorrow right now I am putting

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interview someone to you who is

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obviously more that very special resolve

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is really the reason we are here it

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doesn't need much on these introductions

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I'm not going to take what time to give

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you much of an introduction but let us

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all agree that the reason the amazing

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meeting eight is over a thousand strong

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the second year in a row the reason this

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is the most important biggest most

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successful skeptical rational critical

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thinking copper to the world the reason

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we are here is because of the world's

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number one skeptic and that is the

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amazing one itself my friend james randi

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I this group

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here in Las Vegas we're also going to be

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even better folks not only those three

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but we're also going to be in Zurich

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Switzerland i think i could get it

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through a lot this year item to paper

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going all go down to drop individuals

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make this possible starting today it is

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such a large present our people but i

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will do that because that will come

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during the next few days opportunity

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but I want to tell me this basically

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it's me folks to expanding and from me

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at this moment you are the people that

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are responsible for the success of the

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amazing

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you not the people behind the stage as

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much as you because you all contribute

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in your own way in the success of their

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vision

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I thank you for the botfly birth all the

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staff goes as well and the all items and

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yo guys i was talking to Richard

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solvency today all right he said if we

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record a trailer for our podcast

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skeptics with a que he'd play it on

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their on their show nice nice oven

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that's very generous it's pretty I'm not

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sure what we could do though I mean well

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suppose you tell people the shows about

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but it's basically this yeah but yeah

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but you know we talk about science and

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skepticism and things that's that's true

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as fuzzy you mentioned the website

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address not merseyside skeptics todo UK

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yeah yeah just like search was 19 oh and

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then we could end with like a big song

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like the skeptics with okay god no no no

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no don't don't do that join us now for

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video hello and welcome to the think

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tank back in Australia I know it's a bit

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odd i know we were just in las vegas but

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before we went to Las Vegas we're

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actually here in Rachel's front room

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doing a special thing tank hello Rachel

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hello Richard special reason why we're

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doing this think tank tonight isn't

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there there is indeed ah a couple of

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special reasons that's true yes we're

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very pleased to welcome back to the

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thing tango good friend may not home a

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no hello and I'd like to mention I have

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no scientific qualifications whatsoever

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so let's get that up front here that

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either you come out of my mouth is to be

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taken with in fact a tonne of salt and

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the other special reason and special

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reason is a for the very rare occasion

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we actually have highly searches in

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person in the think tank and I should

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have the provision that I'm a religious

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education teacher so you should take

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with even larger block of salt in the

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back could probably look at the Sodom

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and Gomorrah which one I think was Lot's

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wife is turned into a pillar of salt you

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know about about an entire Lot's wife of

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salt I would say yes that's a lot of

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salt that's a lot yes thank you very

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much for this car bad jack cheese

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colonies like you're not even much

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clicking as you know they're plastic

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glasses because the dr ratush place

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there was a a few glassing insolence and

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police will not live it up happy real

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glass in the house actually imagine so

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um yes of course why you're hearing this

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dr. hu9 the gang are enjoying a

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marvelous time in Las Vegas well I

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certainly hope we had dr. hu I'm sure he

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will be at this stage over yet to fly

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out and we're flying out in two days yes

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oh yeah we are Mississippi it doesn't

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make sense it doesn't make sense because

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it's an airing in a way it is and you

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should see it like dr. Roach is packing

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here and the basket basically everyone

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from the skeptics owners getting that

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their clothing together and they are so

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together with their packing that they've

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got their socks and underwear marked

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Monday

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okay and so when they get to Las Vegas

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they can just open the zip lock bag and

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there's the undies and socks ready to go

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actually maybe you shouldn't joke about

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that because my mom bought me sucks then

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we'll match monday to friday look i got

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the same thing i just i wear them on the

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i wear them on the wrong day to

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deliberately confuse the emergency room

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operation in case in case hey this guy's

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got friday socks on but it's actually

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wednesday i don't know if we should

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treat in my eyes so then they check your

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underwear and says saturday they don't

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know what to do now apart from that we

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are having the skeptic zones favorite

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candy or lollies depending on all yer

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yes mastics now a lot of things to

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confuse Americans like the asian-pacific

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region and another one of those things

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is must expire dunham the famous skeptic

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and spur owner is a if you see one of

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the people expect these out um I don't

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think Brian cares for them hmm i don't

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think we found any American case and

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they try to be very polite so nice it is

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new come out out there that they try to

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be polite now the Americans and nuts

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about anything peanut of course it you

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really all your peanut bars and stuff

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and any of those peanut bars can be as

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strong as this mastic but just the

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flavor mmm that it's strange to us could

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we love it we're all here eating them at

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the burn I knew it down I was told by

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people that it tastes like perfume or

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00:24:52,869 --> 00:24:50,029
cologne colonia or addy is ass how would

537
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:52,879
I know all the question that was posed

538
00:24:56,049 --> 00:24:54,710
to them after they said that but I think

539
00:24:58,450 --> 00:24:56,059
it was because they were talking about

540
00:25:00,369 --> 00:24:58,460
just the harsh kind of musky flavor well

541
00:25:02,229 --> 00:25:00,379
well because because it's so such a

542
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,239
chemicals and you must find out the the

543
00:25:05,469 --> 00:25:03,919
chemical number of that that it's its

544
00:25:08,529 --> 00:25:05,479
label it too because they could be some

545
00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:08,539
kiddies are allergic to that will run

546
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:09,830
around like crazy on the red cordial

547
00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:11,570
thing or is that a word think that's

548
00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:13,830
amazing

549
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:17,190
yes dr. barber Tricia has oh please tell

550
00:25:21,409 --> 00:25:19,110
us more Carla this is the UM the myth

551
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:21,419
that if kids drink red cordial they go

552
00:25:25,789 --> 00:25:23,640
mad yeah yeah when I was last at

553
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:25,799
DragonCon dr. Barbara Drescher who is

554
00:25:30,889 --> 00:25:28,169
someone people can hear it ter mate this

555
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,899
year she in fact debunked it has been ya

556
00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:33,120
mythology the idea of too much sugar is

557
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,220
going to make children overly hyper she

558
00:25:38,509 --> 00:25:37,200
did I thought it was the color no no

559
00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:38,519
apparently it's it's because you're

560
00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:40,740
never here at about green cordial that's

561
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,830
a good cuz I try this at a party and we

562
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:48,960
have we had a control group we had like

563
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,970
the people look we let letting the car

564
00:25:56,389 --> 00:25:52,320
park the pit leather red cordial the

565
00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:56,399
people have the cocaine I'm not going on

566
00:25:59,360 --> 00:25:57,960
the show and the people with the cocaine

567
00:26:00,379 --> 00:25:59,370
ended up in the car park with the people

568
00:26:01,610 --> 00:26:00,389
who had me and the people the red

569
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:01,620
Bordeaux just watched a bit of you know

570
00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:03,330
the ABC and went to sleep so and we

571
00:26:07,340 --> 00:26:05,820
completely just prove this although the

572
00:26:11,450 --> 00:26:07,350
control group was polluted by about

573
00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:11,460
ten-thirty well I like I like red

574
00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:13,350
cordial but it doesn't send me running

575
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:14,700
around the block and doing all sorts of

576
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:16,529
crazy things no it isn't me it isn't me

577
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:18,570
that it that is the case I think my

578
00:26:23,419 --> 00:26:20,850
favorite reaction to the mass sticks

579
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:23,429
will remain the dinner at dragoncon

580
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:25,740
where we filmed poor old George Robin

581
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:27,570
eating them and he just went into

582
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:29,730
complete shock and said suddenly I'm in

583
00:26:35,570 --> 00:26:33,330
my grandfather's bathroom what he had an

584
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:35,580
easier and he did he said silly I'm

585
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:37,200
meeting the shaving cream that's a

586
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:40,110
tasteless it's great fun any Australians

587
00:26:44,419 --> 00:26:41,970
going to the States for any reason at

588
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:44,429
all go to the supermarket before you go

589
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,370
grab a packet of must expand you'll have

590
00:26:51,379 --> 00:26:49,919
no end of fun saying to Americans here

591
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:51,389
there's a special candy from Australia

592
00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:53,010
try it nice out here in the up Crompton

593
00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:55,380
and their face will go contort it and

594
00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:56,760
they'll either spit it out or they look

595
00:27:00,769 --> 00:26:58,710
at you like you're poisoning moments you

596
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:00,779
know what I had to do I did it when I

597
00:27:05,509 --> 00:27:02,850
was in Italy and also when i was in

598
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:05,519
florida and i had to have backups of tim

599
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:07,590
tams to compensate for the people that

600
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:09,809
suffered so much so they get really

601
00:27:13,129 --> 00:27:11,760
horrible excruciating looks on their

602
00:27:15,529 --> 00:27:13,139
face and then i'd have to make it all

603
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:15,539
better with at in town i have sent some

604
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:17,580
already so this is a warning to people

605
00:27:21,889 --> 00:27:19,529
who are attending the skeptically

606
00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:21,899
speaking beyond belief party which is

607
00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:25,260
held by desiree shell sweepy of skeptic

608
00:27:29,879 --> 00:27:27,070
ality Heidi Anderson

609
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:29,889
and Barbra Drescher and oh yeah that's

610
00:27:34,019 --> 00:27:31,840
all of them I have sent them some musk

611
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:34,029
sticks already so they are going to pass

612
00:27:37,499 --> 00:27:35,830
them out especially for the party that

613
00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:37,509
they're holding there so i hope you hope

614
00:27:43,820 --> 00:27:39,580
those wonderful women survived i'm sorry

615
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:43,830
i hope you ok yeah you can get musk

616
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:47,590
lifesavers oh yes yes thanks good one

617
00:27:53,220 --> 00:27:50,799
okay yeah I sent them let me see furry

618
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:53,230
friends good choice with all the little

619
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:54,490
animals so I hope you're enjoying the

620
00:27:59,850 --> 00:27:56,049
furry friends and I hope that makes up

621
00:28:01,649 --> 00:27:59,860
for the must excite you now let's talk

622
00:28:04,769 --> 00:28:01,659
about something slightly more serious

623
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:04,779
and skeptical I guess Kylie you recently

624
00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:06,970
went along and you blogged it very well

625
00:28:10,019 --> 00:28:08,500
I must say with people commenting that

626
00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:10,029
your fingers must have been burning on

627
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:11,950
the keys as you are doing it you were at

628
00:28:17,549 --> 00:28:15,370
a talk about vaccination which we

629
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:17,559
promoted on skeptics own in birth can

630
00:28:21,509 --> 00:28:18,850
you tell us a little bit about that and

631
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:21,519
some of the goings on okay this was held

632
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:23,289
at the telethon institute for child

633
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:26,110
health research it was not done in

634
00:28:31,139 --> 00:28:28,840
opposition to the avn it is a part of

635
00:28:32,909 --> 00:28:31,149
ongoing seminars I'd like to make that

636
00:28:35,369 --> 00:28:32,919
perfectly clear because I know that

637
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:35,379
certain members of the avian on their

638
00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:36,970
facebook page and so forth have been

639
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:38,980
saying oh this was attack against us no

640
00:28:43,769 --> 00:28:41,590
it's one of the sepal it's of interest

641
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:43,779
of the community so this is something

642
00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:46,870
that they do Fiona Stanley and let me

643
00:28:51,779 --> 00:28:48,940
see dr. Peter Richmond Bruce Lee my land

644
00:28:54,539 --> 00:28:51,789
and Debra layman who are respectively

645
00:28:57,659 --> 00:28:54,549
involved in investigation of meningitis

646
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:57,669
infectious diseases and Bruce Wayne

647
00:29:01,470 --> 00:28:59,679
Wayne was just a parent a parent who is

648
00:29:04,139 --> 00:29:01,480
doing awareness raising of meningitis

649
00:29:06,629 --> 00:29:04,149
and his daughter Ashley was severely

650
00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:06,639
affected by it as a child all of this

651
00:29:10,590 --> 00:29:09,190
was done to inform parents and have an

652
00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:10,600
opportunity to talk and get some

653
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:13,750
information what really struck me about

654
00:29:19,049 --> 00:29:17,440
this was during the Q&A at the end Fiona

655
00:29:23,129 --> 00:29:19,059
Stanley oh there's something coming over

656
00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:23,139
the building is that gorgeous it's a bus

657
00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:29,279
it's really true thing is I'm out of

658
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:31,150
knowing it's just like it's just like

659
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:34,510
that movie bedknobs and bruise is if

660
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:35,950
it's a lot bigger than a king size bed

661
00:29:39,390 --> 00:29:38,080
and you can see them so clearly out

662
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Rachel's window they're like they're

663
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:41,530
just right there it's amazing I'm gonna

664
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:42,910
have to try to get a photo of the

665
00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:44,410
recipient later cuz that was just a

666
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:48,539
stunning genuine oh yes seriously there

667
00:29:54,390 --> 00:29:51,130
so I was like oh my god no George

668
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:54,400
parachute even further very honestly

669
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:56,049
they're so close that the pilot could

670
00:29:59,100 --> 00:29:57,610
actually wait till you anything Rachel

671
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:59,110
I'm sorry about that people who

672
00:30:04,110 --> 00:30:00,880
obviously surprise me but yes it's a

673
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:04,120
serious topic yeah um what really struck

674
00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:06,010
me about this was at the end of the

675
00:30:10,110 --> 00:30:07,630
lecture there was an opportunity for a

676
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:10,120
QA and as you might expect there were

677
00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:13,600
members of of the audience parents

678
00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:16,150
concerned community members who wanted

679
00:30:20,130 --> 00:30:17,950
to put forward what their views were

680
00:30:21,539 --> 00:30:20,140
about vaccinations and there was one

681
00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:21,549
woman who read out of statement

682
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:22,840
essentially about her child who

683
00:30:27,810 --> 00:30:25,360
experiences and it was it was this her

684
00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:27,820
own child her own charge and this is my

685
00:30:31,529 --> 00:30:29,320
child this went through these

686
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:31,539
experiences as she wasn't there yet I I

687
00:30:34,850 --> 00:30:33,130
choose not to vaccinate my two other

688
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:34,860
children and I feel like I've been

689
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:37,929
disenfranchised by pediatricians by

690
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:39,490
scientists I don't trust you anymore so

691
00:30:43,289 --> 00:30:42,010
forth and as I was sitting there typing

692
00:30:45,419 --> 00:30:43,299
away I thought this is interesting I

693
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,429
want to know how how do you respond it's

694
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:46,960
how do you do the sensitively not

695
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,820
alienate the audience those who are the

696
00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:50,799
sidelines make them feel like all nasty

697
00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:52,900
scientists what she says is right or or

698
00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:55,000
even worse you know stupid parent how

699
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:56,740
dare you know it's not about that and

700
00:31:04,049 --> 00:31:01,600
what dr. Peter Richmond and dr. Fiona

701
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:04,059
Stanley did they said we do care deeply

702
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:07,000
what we do is show evidence of risks of

703
00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:09,880
the vaccination versus the risk of the

704
00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:11,950
disease and we do this with huge amounts

705
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,640
of compassion and we're not trying to be

706
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:17,440
on sides we're trying to be on the side

707
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:21,610
of the kids until we care about and in a

708
00:31:25,169 --> 00:31:23,500
way that really diffused the atmosphere

709
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:25,179
because when the woman finished reading

710
00:31:28,409 --> 00:31:26,470
out a statement there are a few people

711
00:31:30,539 --> 00:31:28,419
try to applaud her oh yes sir

712
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:30,549
yeah yeah she wouldn't you expect that

713
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:33,070
you know the team and was the side

714
00:31:36,869 --> 00:31:34,480
effect of the vaccination a child

715
00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:36,879
experienced how serious weather um she

716
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:40,840
it i have read an annotated in fact two

717
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:42,730
books of Jenny McCarthy I've got through

718
00:31:46,259 --> 00:31:44,350
the entire book and written down every

719
00:31:47,729 --> 00:31:46,269
single claim agenda karthi and they'll

720
00:31:49,470 --> 00:31:47,739
very similar to the sort of things she

721
00:31:52,409 --> 00:31:49,480
getting Jenny McCarthy's books you know

722
00:31:55,979 --> 00:31:52,419
the child's life died in his eyes he had

723
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:55,989
febrile convulsions experiences similar

724
00:32:01,499 --> 00:31:58,690
to autism and so forth but just be clear

725
00:32:03,330 --> 00:32:01,509
this was her personal account of what

726
00:32:06,869 --> 00:32:03,340
what she thought was an absolute of

727
00:32:08,849 --> 00:32:06,879
accident there was no no backup she's

728
00:32:10,979 --> 00:32:08,859
not suggest that it really was vaccines

729
00:32:12,869 --> 00:32:10,989
she had a very negative view of the

730
00:32:14,009 --> 00:32:12,879
pediatrician she said that nobody was

731
00:32:16,379 --> 00:32:14,019
giving the man says she didn't feel

732
00:32:18,029 --> 00:32:16,389
supported and essentially it was it was

733
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:18,039
not that dissimilar to many stories that

734
00:32:23,099 --> 00:32:20,769
you might get online unknown what really

735
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:23,109
happened absolutely okay well um what

736
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:24,850
did intrigued me was i think it was dr.

737
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:26,350
Peter Richmond said that there has been

738
00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:28,450
new evidence of certain genetic

739
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:30,580
tendencies towards reactions to some

740
00:32:35,999 --> 00:32:32,710
vaccines I'd have to suggest contacting

741
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:36,009
yourself to to get the full picture but

742
00:32:39,060 --> 00:32:37,450
he suggested that maybe getting the

743
00:32:41,639 --> 00:32:39,070
child to see whether or not they might

744
00:32:43,049 --> 00:32:41,649
be that sort of influence upon from the

745
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:43,059
child per you have that reaction but

746
00:32:47,129 --> 00:32:44,710
whether or not they were going to take

747
00:32:50,609 --> 00:32:47,139
anything on board I don't know because

748
00:32:52,259 --> 00:32:50,619
they seemed very very antagonistic but

749
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:52,269
what impressed me was how dr. Fiona

750
00:32:57,539 --> 00:32:54,609
Stanley said we're not trying to make

751
00:32:59,489 --> 00:32:57,549
this into a pro or an 80 or push ideas

752
00:33:01,889 --> 00:32:59,499
or so forth we just want to make sure

753
00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:01,899
that you know what both sides are saying

754
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:03,100
in terms that this is what the disease

755
00:33:07,259 --> 00:33:04,960
can do to you evidence of what the

756
00:33:09,389 --> 00:33:07,269
disease has done to people Bruce

757
00:33:11,369 --> 00:33:09,399
langland for example was really clear on

758
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:11,379
the ongoing effects of child who has

759
00:33:16,499 --> 00:33:14,529
been disabled or brain damage from a

760
00:33:19,139 --> 00:33:16,509
disease in the long term meningitis

761
00:33:21,239 --> 00:33:19,149
dreadful stuff 21 years old and she

762
00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:21,249
cannot talk she cannot walk and the

763
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:22,350
effect upon the family the community

764
00:33:28,169 --> 00:33:26,080
carers income and it does certainly hurt

765
00:33:31,169 --> 00:33:28,179
families so Carly can I ask you because

766
00:33:33,659 --> 00:33:31,179
you went to the avn seminar telethon

767
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,669
institute can you give us some feel for

768
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:35,919
the difference in how the audience

769
00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:39,849
responded or how if for example there

770
00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:41,470
weren't any questions at the avn summer

771
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,350
well they were but i ended up but there

772
00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:46,000
weren't sitapur called questions where

773
00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:47,380
they are just what I'm trying to get at

774
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:50,230
is yeah how did Meryl Dory respond to

775
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:52,210
say someone saying but my child died

776
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:55,600
from a communicable disease or how do

777
00:33:58,350 --> 00:33:56,650
you think she would have responded

778
00:34:00,690 --> 00:33:58,360
compared to what you saw at the telethon

779
00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:00,700
institute I do know that apparently the

780
00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:02,830
alien have recorded there's yeah I know

781
00:34:06,299 --> 00:34:04,780
they'd show that sort of thing I don't I

782
00:34:09,629 --> 00:34:06,309
can touch your shrink myself to listen

783
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:09,639
to i would i'm willing to read so i'll

784
00:34:13,770 --> 00:34:11,290
give it a go yeah it's up there you can

785
00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:13,780
listen to it hmm well this is a woman

786
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:15,940
who said that people didn't die from

787
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:17,530
whooping cough back then they don't die

788
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:19,750
from an hour yeah yeah judy judy

789
00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:21,490
willimon was apparently in the audience

790
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:23,230
for the telethon institute lecture she

791
00:34:27,330 --> 00:34:24,790
was behind gentleman called Grendel's hi

792
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:27,340
Grendel's and she was muttering

793
00:34:33,389 --> 00:34:29,770
throughout the whole time well in my

794
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,399
opinion how might a Mel Dory speak to

795
00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:35,520
someone who's a skeptic she she probably

796
00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:38,080
you should tell them she would get care

797
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,399
of them well no she's got two big

798
00:34:43,169 --> 00:34:41,280
security guards should get them tags out

799
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:43,179
these could do they were quite a few

800
00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:45,010
burly guards at the avn apparently they

801
00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:46,750
were there for me and dan buzzer to make

802
00:34:54,329 --> 00:34:49,960
sure we didn't cause any well I'm not

803
00:34:55,649 --> 00:34:54,339
surprised Kylie I mean I want to marry I

804
00:34:58,170 --> 00:34:55,659
spent the whole time i head over my

805
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:58,180
laptop 70 70 cavity deputy tap tappity

806
00:35:01,560 --> 00:34:59,920
tap so and you know what Meryl said

807
00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:01,570
about that right but if you guys have

808
00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:02,980
been bothered to listen instead of

809
00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:04,180
tweeting and blogging you might have

810
00:35:06,810 --> 00:35:05,380
learned something well that's funny

811
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:06,820
because I ended up as you know

812
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:09,130
transcribing eight pages of Judy woolum

813
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:12,510
and speech pretty much verbatim so um

814
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:15,910
yeah yeah and what plunge learn yeah

815
00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:18,130
what did I learn I learned after passing

816
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:21,369
on to all of you that it's amazing how

817
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:23,590
you can cherry-pick data isn't it

818
00:35:29,130 --> 00:35:26,050
using how you can post up links am Mel

819
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:29,140
it's amazing how you can post up links

820
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:32,320
on a powerpoint that don't actually go

821
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:35,170
to anything really and look really

822
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:37,060
impressive when you say and here's the

823
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:38,980
supporting detour such and such and then

824
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:40,810
post up a URL and then I have the

825
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:42,970
wonderful Jack neo Tammy Scanlon on

826
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,890
Twitter clicking on those things for me

827
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:46,240
and merely tweeting me back going it

828
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:47,830
doesn't go anyway can you check again I

829
00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:49,690
can't yet say it's the correct link this

830
00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:50,680
is the link that she is habitable

831
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:52,630
interested it's a blank so they just

832
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:54,610
expired or they were never there in the

833
00:35:59,580 --> 00:35:57,330
first place it's a 403 or 404 I

834
00:36:01,260 --> 00:35:59,590
suggested never was there in the first

835
00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:01,270
place or this woman doesn't have a time

836
00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:03,940
i can give you lessons I'm really good

837
00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:06,520
at it yeah I you could you could take

838
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,920
that as a form of gish galloping I think

839
00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:10,240
there's another term for it when you

840
00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:11,740
when you do that you put up lots of

841
00:36:15,330 --> 00:36:13,300
links and references and say there's all

842
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:15,340
this support and you don't that's all

843
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:17,770
you do I just connected we just as the

844
00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:21,280
non ish gallopin you want to yes yeah

845
00:36:25,830 --> 00:36:23,320
and now I'm assumed from the way using

846
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:25,840
it that it means trying to flood some up

847
00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:27,430
with so much information that they can't

848
00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:30,670
disprove it is that correct yes yes

849
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:32,980
right okay well if you went to one of

850
00:36:37,470 --> 00:36:35,770
the great websites prison planet then

851
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:37,480
they have all the all the stuff that's

852
00:36:40,590 --> 00:36:39,070
going on do you don't know about that

853
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:40,600
they will have a hold of stakeholders

854
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:42,160
and then if you follow them through that

855
00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:43,630
a lot of them actually don't go anywhere

856
00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:45,340
public us that expired or something like

857
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:47,320
that but I still think if you if you if

858
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:49,630
you want references that are really out

859
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:51,910
there you have to go to the no agenda

860
00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:53,980
show that's the place i like it i love

861
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:55,600
that i know you guys don't follow me on

862
00:36:59,790 --> 00:36:57,490
that one but they have their show notes

863
00:37:00,990 --> 00:36:59,800
every week we'll we'll have you going to

864
00:37:02,850 --> 00:37:01,000
what other people are thinking about

865
00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:02,860
non-scientific things and I think it's a

866
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:05,140
great list of links Maynard you actually

867
00:37:10,110 --> 00:37:07,360
subscribe to me to no agenda and I did

868
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:10,120
listen to okay so what do you think of

869
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:12,730
the work of adam curry and johnson and

870
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:15,190
angina and john seed of work in the

871
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:16,210
morning what do you think of they were

872
00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:18,310
well i tried to listen to one of them

873
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:20,020
and they each of them go for about two

874
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:22,030
hours so i started off with one that

875
00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:23,680
you'd mentioned to me specifically and

876
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:26,740
that was about the vaccine reactions

877
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:28,510
that happened in australia a couple of

878
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:30,130
months ago with young children getting

879
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:33,730
sick and as soon as they said they'd

880
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:35,530
received a donation for three thousand

881
00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:37,450
dollars because

882
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:40,300
the guy who donated said they revealed

883
00:37:44,910 --> 00:37:42,700
that a child died from the flu vaccine I

884
00:37:46,650 --> 00:37:44,920
had to turn it off because you thought

885
00:37:49,859 --> 00:37:46,660
AHA that's so incorrect i'm not going to

886
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:49,869
list any further yes because the

887
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:51,790
coroner's inquest had shown that there

888
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:53,770
was no link between the vaccine and the

889
00:37:59,550 --> 00:37:57,130
death and okay there might be still some

890
00:38:02,099 --> 00:37:59,560
debate about what actually caused it but

891
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:02,109
i think it's really irresponsible to say

892
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:04,210
we revealed that the vaccine caused the

893
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:06,010
death but the guy also gave that

894
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:08,230
donation was in Australia he was from

895
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:10,450
Queensland yet another and the death

896
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:12,310
happen in Queensland exactly yeah yeah

897
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:16,570
um here's a local paper yes I mean yeah

898
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:17,710
that's what I mean like what are you

899
00:38:22,829 --> 00:38:19,450
getting I'm getting at that even the

900
00:38:24,839 --> 00:38:22,839
like brian dunning says and i think like

901
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,849
no agenda guys themselves would also say

902
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:26,800
they shouldn't be your primary source of

903
00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:28,630
information that should be the start

904
00:38:32,819 --> 00:38:30,579
before you start looking at something so

905
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:32,829
for example that's why I enjoy skip

906
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:36,010
toyed and no agenda because I hear

907
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:37,210
something that they'll generate going on

908
00:38:41,069 --> 00:38:39,550
has and sound and maybe sometimes I'll

909
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:41,079
go oh yeah okay there is some evidence

910
00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:43,150
to back it up or sometimes ago no Adams

911
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:45,460
and up and and I think that's where it

912
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:47,170
should be and with Brian when brian says

913
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:48,550
something about well look he did he's

914
00:38:52,319 --> 00:38:49,930
late escaped wind was all about things

915
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:52,329
he got wrong yeah yeah yeah and he runs

916
00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:53,740
he even says don't listen to any guy on

917
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,020
a podcast now yes I agree that it's

918
00:38:59,069 --> 00:38:57,520
irresponsible of them to make a

919
00:39:01,020 --> 00:38:59,079
statement like that that is incorrect

920
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:01,030
and could make people not immunize their

921
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:03,310
children but I'm not quite sure sure

922
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:06,250
that they're that powerful no that's

923
00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:09,250
probably fair enough but I think I mean

924
00:39:12,809 --> 00:39:10,900
that could have just been an offhanded

925
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:12,819
statement and because there were a lot

926
00:39:17,970 --> 00:39:15,369
of rumors going on around about about

927
00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:17,980
that issue but if they are putting

928
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:19,300
themselves up as we look for the

929
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:21,250
evidence and we seek the truth and they

930
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:23,200
Bibble now and they hit people in the

931
00:39:27,089 --> 00:39:25,630
mouth as you say if that's the first

932
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:27,099
thing they're going to say then it's

933
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:28,510
very hard for me to try to engage with

934
00:39:35,069 --> 00:39:32,650
anything else because I I don't dismiss

935
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:35,079
every conspiracy theory I don't dismiss

936
00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:38,230
whoo without looking into it first so

937
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:40,060
you know you and I have discussions a

938
00:39:43,319 --> 00:39:42,010
lot about you say to me well maybe I

939
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:43,329
shouldn't talk about this with you

940
00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:44,710
because you might just go oh that's

941
00:39:49,319 --> 00:39:47,140
nonsense but I don't and we watched the

942
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:49,329
West whole documentary together and I

943
00:39:52,469 --> 00:39:50,890
did have to stop it a few times and say

944
00:39:56,819 --> 00:39:52,479
hang on I don't think that's right

945
00:40:00,329 --> 00:39:56,829
others going out for drinks more for you

946
00:40:02,009 --> 00:40:00,339
may not but there is actually there is a

947
00:40:03,329 --> 00:40:02,019
couple of tests okay we're floating

948
00:40:04,949 --> 00:40:03,339
around here but there is some testable

949
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:04,959
points of the West Hall documentary that

950
00:40:08,279 --> 00:40:06,849
are yet to be made remember the girl at

951
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:08,289
drop taking away the ambulance was never

952
00:40:12,329 --> 00:40:10,450
seen before yes obviously they have a

953
00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:12,339
name of that girl yeah there might be

954
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:13,900
some I think something might be some

955
00:40:17,339 --> 00:40:15,609
future follow up on the DVD to find out

956
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:17,349
what happened that girl now okay do you

957
00:40:21,209 --> 00:40:18,640
want to just put that in context for our

958
00:40:23,099 --> 00:40:21,219
listeners who may not know about it okay

959
00:40:24,989 --> 00:40:23,109
just quickly go over it again through

960
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:24,999
the talk was okay Australia's latest i

961
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:26,410
think we did speak better on a big tank

962
00:40:29,849 --> 00:40:28,569
we need a few about month ago in okay

963
00:40:31,170 --> 00:40:29,859
look I'm sorry to float around this was

964
00:40:33,269 --> 00:40:31,180
talking about vaccinations a second ago

965
00:40:34,799 --> 00:40:33,279
no it serious oh yeah we're at player

966
00:40:36,959 --> 00:40:34,809
see how do we back up should we listen

967
00:40:38,549 --> 00:40:36,969
to both sides and what you do okay right

968
00:40:40,049 --> 00:40:38,559
no I agree with you should listen to

969
00:40:42,299 --> 00:40:40,059
both sides well mostly stopped me yeah

970
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:42,309
ok now that West or 66 is a lot

971
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:43,690
Australia's I think it's pretty much our

972
00:40:49,319 --> 00:40:46,329
largest documented UFO sighting ever

973
00:40:51,150 --> 00:40:49,329
basically something flew over still

974
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:51,160
appeared to land behind some trees here

975
00:40:58,529 --> 00:40:55,630
we go here comes now you're caring to

976
00:41:00,089 --> 00:40:58,539
land on a runway that's a 747 to you and

977
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:00,099
actually that reminds me in the whole

978
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:02,049
documentary I don't remember anyone

979
00:41:07,410 --> 00:41:04,390
mentioning what the object sounded like

980
00:41:09,029 --> 00:41:07,420
yeah good point now it could have been

981
00:41:10,829 --> 00:41:09,039
flying silently there are methods of

982
00:41:12,779 --> 00:41:10,839
propulsion that I don't know about that

983
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:12,789
could be silent that's possible but no

984
00:41:17,099 --> 00:41:15,400
one seemed to remember anything of an

985
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:17,109
auditory nature it runs seems remember

986
00:41:21,779 --> 00:41:19,690
visual no you're right and there wasn't

987
00:41:23,489 --> 00:41:21,789
mentioned once or not that's just some

988
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:23,499
other store then okay so all these kids

989
00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:25,569
saw this some teachers lawyers and and

990
00:41:29,849 --> 00:41:28,180
as a teacher that allegedly took a photo

991
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:29,859
of what it was that Cameron with it was

992
00:41:35,339 --> 00:41:31,890
then taken away from the teacher by

993
00:41:37,049 --> 00:41:35,349
that's really low 40 yeah there was one

994
00:41:38,549 --> 00:41:37,059
man dressed in uniform the other one

995
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:38,559
looked like a moment a policeman or

996
00:41:41,609 --> 00:41:39,369
something like that and actually took

997
00:41:43,799 --> 00:41:41,619
the camera as well as the film now all

998
00:41:46,049 --> 00:41:43,809
of these things are seem unusual there

999
00:41:47,549 --> 00:41:46,059
seem to be a lot of people look and

1000
00:41:49,289 --> 00:41:47,559
maybe it might be messaged area but also

1001
00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:49,299
spoke to people that have experienced

1002
00:41:53,339 --> 00:41:51,400
similar situations I don't want to name

1003
00:41:54,839 --> 00:41:53,349
the person at their school seeing

1004
00:41:56,099 --> 00:41:54,849
unusual things and they're pretty damn

1005
00:41:58,349 --> 00:41:56,109
convinced that they did see something

1006
00:41:59,660 --> 00:41:58,359
unusual themselves that hovered near

1007
00:42:01,490 --> 00:41:59,670
their school for about an hour

1008
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:01,500
and they were able to visually confirm

1009
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:03,359
that to themselves now looking at

1010
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:04,980
yourself you know i'm not i'm talking

1011
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:06,089
about someone else i know well enough

1012
00:42:09,319 --> 00:42:07,920
that has also seen something of that

1013
00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:09,329
kind of thing and we know the most

1014
00:42:13,579 --> 00:42:11,640
powerful experiences the ones that you

1015
00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:13,589
experience yourself that's right and and

1016
00:42:16,220 --> 00:42:14,670
I'm not going to doubt they had this

1017
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:16,230
experience but you know then again

1018
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:17,640
there's anything that knows I had that

1019
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:20,130
experience so again as you are always

1020
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:21,660
going on about this show and in the

1021
00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:23,250
skeptics guide to the universe and in

1022
00:42:26,809 --> 00:42:24,630
sceptile you want stuff that can be

1023
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:26,819
tested and that can't be test okay but

1024
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:27,930
can we just go back to what you said

1025
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:30,569
initially about this point which was the

1026
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:32,160
girl who was apparently social and the

1027
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:34,079
ambulance no this this was one thing

1028
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:36,780
that you and I discussed after the

1029
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:38,970
Westall documentary because that would

1030
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:41,010
be easy to test wouldn't it it would it

1031
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:42,750
must be medical records they must be

1032
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:44,490
ambulance record so there must be the

1033
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:47,130
girl they didn't follow it up that

1034
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:49,740
that's right yeah well that apparently

1035
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:51,030
that girl was taken away in an ambulance

1036
00:42:54,589 --> 00:42:53,250
which again never seen a getting them

1037
00:42:56,359 --> 00:42:54,599
you will never came back to that school

1038
00:42:58,490 --> 00:42:56,369
now sure she could just move to another

1039
00:42:59,960 --> 00:42:58,500
school for another reason but again

1040
00:43:01,760 --> 00:42:59,970
there could be some sort of paper trail

1041
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:01,770
there and it's only 1966 which

1042
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:03,720
admittedly was a while ago but maybe I

1043
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,490
head classmates would know what happened

1044
00:43:09,170 --> 00:43:07,440
to Mary know why cause mate said that

1045
00:43:10,549 --> 00:43:09,180
what happened to Mary and two couldn't

1046
00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:10,559
find out what happens when they named

1047
00:43:13,579 --> 00:43:12,030
her yet they've actually named it

1048
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:13,589
actually named and they had a surname

1049
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:15,450
and everything so this is why I'm

1050
00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:17,490
variants to find out here we have some

1051
00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:19,230
testable information did wash you

1052
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:21,390
overcome just buy some hysteria did you

1053
00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:22,710
get close to the object and they had

1054
00:43:28,819 --> 00:43:25,140
some before she indeed taken away at all

1055
00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:28,829
or even that wasn't the ambulance dress

1056
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:30,150
to look like an added that's what was

1057
00:43:34,910 --> 00:43:32,490
really an alien ship or door did to the

1058
00:43:36,829 --> 00:43:34,920
poor girl had a fit dying it wasn't

1059
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,839
passed one of the kids because Oh kids

1060
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:39,359
well yes I there's many things that

1061
00:43:42,049 --> 00:43:40,650
could have happened there but that is

1062
00:43:43,789 --> 00:43:42,059
the one thing at the end of documentary

1063
00:43:46,370 --> 00:43:43,799
go gee I'd like to whatever that girl

1064
00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:46,380
yeah and and you know and it ever say in

1065
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:47,400
the documentary I would love to have a

1066
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,930
piece of an alien spaceship they could

1067
00:43:52,579 --> 00:43:50,400
test but there's nothing here it's just

1068
00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:52,589
a lot of people talking about it now I

1069
00:43:55,069 --> 00:43:53,880
have heard that the problem with the

1070
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:55,079
documentary is there's massive

1071
00:43:58,490 --> 00:43:56,940
confirmation bias and because an ad was

1072
00:44:01,220 --> 00:43:58,500
put in the local paper about if you're

1073
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:01,230
at the Westall school at this time and

1074
00:44:05,420 --> 00:44:03,510
you saw something come along this

1075
00:44:07,220 --> 00:44:05,430
meeting we're having so if you were at

1076
00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:07,230
that school and you saw nothing maybe

1077
00:44:10,450 --> 00:44:08,150
you read

1078
00:44:12,789 --> 00:44:10,460
maybe wouldn't go the meeting you know

1079
00:44:14,769 --> 00:44:12,799
but you know there's a lot of layers to

1080
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,779
it that I thought were interesting it

1081
00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:16,640
was worth making a documentary about the

1082
00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:18,920
actual documentary maker herself she has

1083
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:21,260
come under a lot of fire for you know

1084
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:22,970
making it a wound documentary and

1085
00:44:27,069 --> 00:44:24,710
everything and I don't know I just think

1086
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:27,079
look she with what she had and which

1087
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:29,210
wasn't a lot it was filled in with some

1088
00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:30,650
really good graphics that they did and

1089
00:44:34,750 --> 00:44:33,020
I'm glad it was made and look I'd like

1090
00:44:36,789 --> 00:44:34,760
to see more of it but I'd like to see

1091
00:44:38,049 --> 00:44:36,799
more of it with information and when

1092
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,059
you're dealing with something that a lot

1093
00:44:42,010 --> 00:44:40,160
of people saw with no accompanying

1094
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:42,020
evidence that can be tested I think she

1095
00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:42,890
did a pretty good job with the

1096
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,260
documentary as it was I wonder if that's

1097
00:44:49,630 --> 00:44:47,119
going to make it to the network it was

1098
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:49,640
on cable oh yes and it was funded by the

1099
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:52,250
sci-fi channel NTV won both put money

1100
00:44:56,859 --> 00:44:55,250
into EV one TV one film Victoria put

1101
00:44:58,059 --> 00:44:56,869
money into us yes look that it was a

1102
00:45:00,460 --> 00:44:58,069
project that's been going on for about

1103
00:45:02,289 --> 00:45:00,470
five years and i would i would say the

1104
00:45:03,579 --> 00:45:02,299
filmmaker would lost a lot of money on

1105
00:45:05,049 --> 00:45:03,589
it because they would have been filming

1106
00:45:07,059 --> 00:45:05,059
bits and pieces of it and slowly

1107
00:45:09,630 --> 00:45:07,069
assembling it but there is one section

1108
00:45:11,529 --> 00:45:09,640
that i think a lot of skeptics would

1109
00:45:13,329 --> 00:45:11,539
definitely pick up there is two and

1110
00:45:15,010 --> 00:45:13,339
that's when one of the girls who was

1111
00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:15,020
regressing back to what she remember at

1112
00:45:18,849 --> 00:45:16,460
the time she was they were doing of that

1113
00:45:21,099 --> 00:45:18,859
hypnotherapy that only regressive

1114
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:21,109
hypnotherapy and and they filmed a bit

1115
00:45:25,150 --> 00:45:22,970
of that and that did make me one a

1116
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:25,160
little bit because the hypnotherapist

1117
00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:27,770
send me leading her a little bit ya know

1118
00:45:32,529 --> 00:45:29,630
when she started talking about small

1119
00:45:34,210 --> 00:45:32,539
green alien type men and I'm no I don't

1120
00:45:35,769 --> 00:45:34,220
think she went that far but is I Greymon

1121
00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:35,779
but she did was talking about i can see

1122
00:45:40,809 --> 00:45:37,940
figures and i can see these kind of

1123
00:45:42,819 --> 00:45:40,819
great that said I I don't think that I

1124
00:45:46,359 --> 00:45:42,829
need to tell anybody how notoriously

1125
00:45:48,339 --> 00:45:46,369
unreliable and it's just dr. Christie

1126
00:45:50,349 --> 00:45:48,349
Wilson's writing on on that kind of

1127
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:50,359
thing about reliability memory or and

1128
00:45:54,430 --> 00:45:52,490
certainly dr. Chris French who and this

1129
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:54,440
hip no hypnosis can bring back old

1130
00:45:59,170 --> 00:45:56,000
memories and you can see them clarity I

1131
00:46:00,609 --> 00:45:59,180
know it doesn't look like that the the

1132
00:46:01,809 --> 00:46:00,619
thing that thing was good about the west

1133
00:46:03,819 --> 00:46:01,819
of document appears they did have a

1134
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,829
uniforms probably but got banging on

1135
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:05,599
about this so much but they did have a

1136
00:46:10,589 --> 00:46:08,450
uniform specialist of military uniforms

1137
00:46:12,490 --> 00:46:10,599
there in the documentary and they

1138
00:46:14,799 --> 00:46:12,500
presented to him a description that

1139
00:46:16,510 --> 00:46:14,809
seemed to be the many different sorts of

1140
00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:16,520
uniforms that the children appeared to

1141
00:46:20,349 --> 00:46:18,049
obscene over the couple of days in the

1142
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:20,359
area and love them did didn't match a

1143
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:20,690
stray

1144
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,130
uniforms the time they appeared to match

1145
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:24,800
American uniforms of the time but again

1146
00:46:29,260 --> 00:46:27,200
once they saw on TV over the last 40

1147
00:46:32,339 --> 00:46:29,270
years well I don't know I used to watch

1148
00:46:35,859 --> 00:46:32,349
a lot of i dream of jeannie and and

1149
00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:35,869
alone you know and the the uniforms that

1150
00:46:39,609 --> 00:46:38,150
de major Healey and Tony had on in that

1151
00:46:41,770 --> 00:46:39,619
probably match what the kids were seeing

1152
00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:41,780
as well but again it was that because

1153
00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:43,400
that was on TV at the time or was it

1154
00:46:47,710 --> 00:46:44,750
because I actually what they saw you

1155
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:47,720
know I it's just the the I know one

1156
00:46:51,849 --> 00:46:50,329
person can be fooled as you say and 200

1157
00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:51,859
people can be a Glee and filled as well

1158
00:46:56,740 --> 00:46:54,589
and I it just makes me wonder which is

1159
00:46:58,660 --> 00:46:56,750
why I get back to the fact that i love

1160
00:47:00,280 --> 00:46:58,670
shows like no agenda and skip to it

1161
00:47:03,609 --> 00:47:00,290
equally because they're coming from

1162
00:47:05,050 --> 00:47:03,619
opposite directions and you've got to do

1163
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,060
the work i think i don't think you know

1164
00:47:09,339 --> 00:47:07,280
i like the fact that skeptic podcasts

1165
00:47:11,050 --> 00:47:09,349
and podcasts in general make the person

1166
00:47:12,970 --> 00:47:11,060
think about it i mean like most radio

1167
00:47:15,339 --> 00:47:12,980
stations they trying I mean John Laws he

1168
00:47:16,839 --> 00:47:15,349
was always doing the thinking for you on

1169
00:47:19,569 --> 00:47:16,849
his show and I like I like the way these

1170
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:19,579
podcasts like you know you know it's as

1171
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:21,050
good as it's a starting place do you

1172
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:22,730
think would no agenda do something like

1173
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:24,530
skip do it would they devote an episode

1174
00:47:30,730 --> 00:47:27,849
to their errors that's a very good point

1175
00:47:33,569 --> 00:47:30,740
they are constantly reading emails about

1176
00:47:37,450 --> 00:47:33,579
people who think they're wrong hmm and

1177
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:37,460
basically there it's more of a format

1178
00:47:41,710 --> 00:47:39,770
reviewing the news so like they'll go

1179
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:41,720
through c-span I'll watch c-span so you

1180
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,310
don't have to they will go through these

1181
00:47:46,750 --> 00:47:45,440
shows and look at them and give you

1182
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:46,760
their take on them now a lot of his

1183
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,290
American politics it is a little bit

1184
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:50,240
confusing to us Australia's here and

1185
00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:51,890
that they've drilled down to a lot of

1186
00:47:54,849 --> 00:47:53,480
things but occasionally you'll gets a

1187
00:47:57,970 --> 00:47:54,859
bit you get big things and you get

1188
00:47:59,680 --> 00:47:57,980
crackpot stuff and you know like Adam

1189
00:48:01,240 --> 00:47:59,690
definitely thinks that there's an elite

1190
00:48:03,309 --> 00:48:01,250
that wants to take over the planet and

1191
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,319
that's sooo nasty I don't think

1192
00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:05,839
necessarily Illuminati I think there's

1193
00:48:09,250 --> 00:48:08,030
an elite that want your stuff and the

1194
00:48:10,540 --> 00:48:09,260
way that they get your stuff is by

1195
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,550
reducing the population every once

1196
00:48:14,140 --> 00:48:12,079
awhile and stuff like that now that is

1197
00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:14,150
really out there serious crackpot that

1198
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:16,280
but that's the I think it fits into the

1199
00:48:20,170 --> 00:48:18,170
same theory as the world the New World

1200
00:48:22,030 --> 00:48:20,180
Order the Illuminati the Rockefellers

1201
00:48:24,339 --> 00:48:22,040
the Rothschilds the Georgia Guidestones

1202
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:24,349
stuff doesn't it isn't it does not fit

1203
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:26,510
into that same well it certainly fits in

1204
00:48:30,130 --> 00:48:28,130
the busy but the hose him down there's

1205
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:30,140
John said Dvorak who buys into a little

1206
00:48:33,690 --> 00:48:31,970
bit of this but there's stuff you stop

1207
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:33,700
set and the one thing that they

1208
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:35,470
they've come up with recently is the

1209
00:48:39,450 --> 00:48:36,880
chemtrails thing now that's meant that's

1210
00:48:41,970 --> 00:48:39,460
been around for years and Adams on board

1211
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:41,980
with this and an even jhansi dvorak's on

1212
00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:43,210
board with the earthquake machine little

1213
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:45,160
bit because like like like I say the geo

1214
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,930
political ramifications of an earthquake

1215
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:48,400
machine would be pretty massive all

1216
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:51,490
right we have the Italian size magis

1217
00:48:55,530 --> 00:48:53,290
you're currently being sued ugly thing

1218
00:48:57,330 --> 00:48:55,540
as well another case i must admit that's

1219
00:49:01,260 --> 00:48:57,340
a new one on me earthquake earthquake

1220
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:01,270
machine because look no because if if I

1221
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:03,010
don't the seismologist actually Croatian

1222
00:49:06,990 --> 00:49:04,510
was being sued for not being ultra

1223
00:49:08,610 --> 00:49:07,000
detected oh yes if the government or

1224
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:08,620
group of people had the ability to cause

1225
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:10,810
earthquakes wouldn't that be a great

1226
00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:13,210
weapon and the problem is earthquakes

1227
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:14,560
happen naturally all the time anyways

1228
00:49:21,870 --> 00:49:20,950
yeah how could you tell yeah oh yeah and

1229
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,880
that's something you can never test

1230
00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:23,920
either I think we should investigate jen

1231
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,140
mccreight and her boob quite claims ah

1232
00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:28,480
actually though not she has been high

1233
00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:30,520
evidence of her she might have an

1234
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:33,430
earthquake machine within her bizim well

1235
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:34,930
well the two of you can ask your

1236
00:49:37,770 --> 00:49:36,160
teammate since I know that should be

1237
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:37,780
doing a very short presentation on the

1238
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:41,200
sunday about the ER I is a two or four

1239
00:49:47,820 --> 00:49:42,940
plan to say the impactor boobquake I'm

1240
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:47,830
not too sure anyone here celebrate blue

1241
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:48,880
cracked I when I was walking around the

1242
00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:51,070
house poppers all day didn't feel a

1243
00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:53,560
thing I think my not i'll leave you to

1244
00:49:57,150 --> 00:49:55,540
represent us in that kinda matter we

1245
00:49:59,250 --> 00:49:57,160
celebrate the richard nice celebrate a

1246
00:50:03,080 --> 00:49:59,260
big quake yeah we reach enjoy everyone

1247
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:03,090
we know we went for a walk maybe finder

1248
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:05,050
which is always dressing inappropriately

1249
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:08,650
yeah it's just embarrassing i am on the

1250
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:09,910
other side of the country people so

1251
00:50:13,050 --> 00:50:11,770
don't to see it mmm and also i always

1252
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:13,060
ever get a visa to get into the US

1253
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:14,650
that's one that at tam in las vegas too

1254
00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:16,330
by the way i think it's cuz i'm in

1255
00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:18,550
listen to no agenda oh you're kidding

1256
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:20,200
right i want you to come accompanied by

1257
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:22,690
a laser to America no I kalica doesn't

1258
00:50:25,980 --> 00:50:24,370
know cuz I caught it I had to get a visa

1259
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:25,990
I like once I can't go there today I

1260
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:27,910
wanted to know about that but I'm not

1261
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:29,050
sure if it's like a big thing that

1262
00:50:37,110 --> 00:50:30,730
you're not going to no no it's not it

1263
00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:37,120
was really quiet sad little as dr. AG

1264
00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:39,700
has a special visa and get into the

1265
00:50:43,860 --> 00:50:41,800
states no why is that like why's that

1266
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:43,870
because I've always been too shy to Mars

1267
00:50:47,329 --> 00:50:45,450
thinking or rachel's because I know

1268
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:47,339
someone who's not allowed he got in

1269
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,540
trouble for coming into Australia is

1270
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:50,160
trying to sneak a whole pile of Chinese

1271
00:50:53,420 --> 00:50:51,810
fireworks and his luggage from Asia to

1272
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:53,430
get to Australia and he got his handsome

1273
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,810
acting he's got a little stamps on which

1274
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,880
says watch this one he's a cheeky fellow

1275
00:51:01,880 --> 00:50:59,040
but I couldn't really imagine news china

1276
00:51:06,349 --> 00:51:01,890
so i got the rate she has a special visa

1277
00:51:10,450 --> 00:51:06,359
sound like these special olympics pana

1278
00:51:15,740 --> 00:51:13,910
because it is actually on watch list is

1279
00:51:18,050 --> 00:51:15,750
its special that's what I mean like I

1280
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:18,060
mean to secret it's what she feels she's

1281
00:51:23,210 --> 00:51:20,609
bringing her passport / very aggressive

1282
00:51:24,740 --> 00:51:23,220
boy so here we go here we go that's

1283
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:24,750
right you flipping through her well used

1284
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:26,730
a hospital ID hide the number Sarasota

1285
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:28,380
graford I don't get in trouble with you

1286
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:30,690
oh you haven't do you have to unfold our

1287
00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:34,079
here we go maybe some light on it it's a

1288
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:36,390
great likeness of dr. 18 now why dr. hu

1289
00:51:40,550 --> 00:51:38,550
do you have this special visa yeah and

1290
00:51:42,770 --> 00:51:40,560
the passport photo looks like you were

1291
00:51:45,859 --> 00:51:42,780
in everything but the girl in the early

1292
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,869
eighteen spot was like two years ago

1293
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:48,240
thank you very much I not hold it up

1294
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,050
there we go good perfect I'll put that

1295
00:52:00,859 --> 00:51:57,839
on to the Flickr page yeah it sees a

1296
00:52:03,319 --> 00:52:00,869
rainy night al menos resemblance to dr.

1297
00:52:05,420 --> 00:52:03,329
ohe ok now why right where's this this

1298
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:05,430
sticker that says no fireworks for you

1299
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:07,710
naughty well no it's really close it's

1300
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:10,170
it was a ridiculous story to tell you

1301
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:13,050
the truth in 1997 i went to Niagara

1302
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:16,680
Falls our lovely and the border between

1303
00:52:22,430 --> 00:52:19,710
New York State and Canada is the Niagara

1304
00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:22,440
River so when you walk across the river

1305
00:52:27,380 --> 00:52:24,630
you actually go through immigration into

1306
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:27,390
Canada when I go to immigration they

1307
00:52:31,069 --> 00:52:29,010
said well you know in America would you

1308
00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:31,079
like to pay seven dollars so that you

1309
00:52:33,950 --> 00:52:32,280
can come and look at the falls from the

1310
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:33,960
other side or would you like not to I

1311
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:37,170
said near and i want to so they ticked a

1312
00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:39,510
little box on my immigration form that

1313
00:52:44,130 --> 00:52:41,160
said refused entry to the United States

1314
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:46,230
huh and in fact it was you that was

1315
00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:49,270
refusing to go yeah and then I could

1316
00:52:54,210 --> 00:52:51,220
never ascertain whether that was on my

1317
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:54,220
permanent record and after 2001 there

1318
00:52:58,140 --> 00:52:55,510
was no way that I was going to risk

1319
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,150
turning up to LAX without a visa yeah

1320
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:00,880
because if it said on my record has been

1321
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:03,670
refused entry and didn't say why because

1322
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:06,330
do have a seven dollars oh it could mean

1323
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:08,500
Chinese fireworks occurred mean weapons

1324
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:11,770
it could mean anything contraband copies

1325
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:14,170
of Jenny McCarthy's latest video oh yeah

1326
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:16,810
anything so and they said we can't tell

1327
00:53:19,770 --> 00:53:18,310
you if it's on your record you need to

1328
00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:19,780
apply for a Freedom of Information Act

1329
00:53:23,820 --> 00:53:21,880
to get that information whether we just

1330
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:23,830
that cheapskate didn't play together or

1331
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:24,970
get that would cost you one hundred

1332
00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:28,720
twenty dollars every month revenge you

1333
00:53:32,430 --> 00:53:30,460
had to go to the stage tuned in you when

1334
00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:32,440
you were not while I missed out on a

1335
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:34,270
trip to the stones tickets I had to

1336
00:53:37,710 --> 00:53:35,950
cancel i would got invited to go to a

1337
00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:37,720
conference in california i had to cancel

1338
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:40,060
that because i couldn't risk turning up

1339
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:42,010
to LAX am I getting kicked out he's the

1340
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:45,460
most expensive site scenes ever seven

1341
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:47,890
dollars ending up costing you that much

1342
00:53:52,020 --> 00:53:50,710
but I had no idea that September 11

1343
00:53:54,030 --> 00:53:52,030
would happen and then you would

1344
00:53:55,410 --> 00:53:54,040
potentially become an issue because at

1345
00:53:57,570 --> 00:53:55,420
that time people were getting thrown out

1346
00:53:58,770 --> 00:53:57,580
of America for having eyeliner in their

1347
00:54:01,770 --> 00:53:58,780
carry-on luggage because it was

1348
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:01,780
potentially a weapon so now i have a

1349
00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:04,390
special visa for five years and then I

1350
00:54:08,490 --> 00:54:05,950
have to keep applying and every time I

1351
00:54:15,830 --> 00:54:08,500
turn up at customs now they say why do

1352
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:18,210
embarrassing for you should invoke the

1353
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:19,930
use of the word special it's a special

1354
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:21,760
visa haha and hopefully they'll

1355
00:54:26,610 --> 00:54:24,550
understand but it's just different from

1356
00:54:29,950 --> 00:54:26,620
the regular basil I am and travel with

1357
00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:29,960
Richard Saunders you have to commute

1358
00:54:34,849 --> 00:54:33,540
that's true that's true every time I've

1359
00:54:37,930 --> 00:54:34,859
gone to the state's I've gone in with

1360
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:37,940
you yeah it's your fault not every time

1361
00:54:44,420 --> 00:54:42,330
I'll guess the next no yeah once oh no

1362
00:54:50,170 --> 00:54:44,430
no no that we left and we what I went to

1363
00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:52,370
I'd like to point out that any my

1364
00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:54,780
students are listening to the show that

1365
00:54:58,550 --> 00:54:56,910
was a joke dr. H is one of the most

1366
00:55:01,609 --> 00:54:58,560
responsible people i know even though

1367
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:01,619
she's a cheapskate not really hope that

1368
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:02,910
you pay to see Niagara Falls because

1369
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:04,770
you're good girls aren't you that's

1370
00:55:07,220 --> 00:55:06,510
right and she's a religious teacher and

1371
00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:07,230
they would never do anything

1372
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:10,260
inappropriate no no nobody ever suspects

1373
00:55:15,590 --> 00:55:12,810
me you join pentagrams all over the

1374
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:15,600
place look to the plane I know now

1375
00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:16,740
actually because the requirements of

1376
00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:17,700
advanced what are you most looking

1377
00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:19,140
forward to that being in the great city

1378
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:23,160
of Las Vegas oh well the convention I

1379
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:27,200
nearly I gonna visit mrs. Sinatra my my

1380
00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:32,250
you got the wrong snatcher yes well now

1381
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:34,800
did she is getting on in years now but

1382
00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:38,010
mrs. frank sinatra that is her name she

1383
00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:39,960
is in the las vegas phone book she's a

1384
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:42,750
lovely lady um and I hope she's still

1385
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:45,450
around her Frank himself uh no sorry

1386
00:55:50,090 --> 00:55:48,720
Fred Sinatra his his brother was Frank

1387
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:50,100
Sinatra who hit his head on a tank

1388
00:55:53,690 --> 00:55:52,170
during the Korean War true story and

1389
00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:53,700
hasn't come out of his room a lot since

1390
00:55:59,150 --> 00:55:56,280
he hasn't been well and and fred is

1391
00:56:01,160 --> 00:55:59,160
sadly passed away but mrs. fred samara

1392
00:56:02,180 --> 00:56:01,170
is a lovely lady and if you give a ring

1393
00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:02,190
while you're there just make a local

1394
00:56:05,180 --> 00:56:03,660
call she'll be a live in the book there

1395
00:56:06,740 --> 00:56:05,190
and tell her that your friend at main

1396
00:56:08,780 --> 00:56:06,750
house and just halo too much sure about

1397
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:08,790
that cuz you used to call her on the

1398
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,470
breakfast I used to call her once a week

1399
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,720
and should give advice about vegetarian

1400
00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:14,400
food which is a seventh-day adventist

1401
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:17,310
and should also give me advice on what

1402
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:19,170
else oh yeah you got to be there at but

1403
00:56:21,859 --> 00:56:20,310
you could go to be married apparently

1404
00:56:23,330 --> 00:56:21,869
you know might my age not to be married

1405
00:56:25,940 --> 00:56:23,340
it's a really bad thing for a man or a

1406
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:25,950
woman yeah and that was all those years

1407
00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:27,570
ago she said that may not all those

1408
00:56:30,170 --> 00:56:28,740
years ago I never thought I'd never

1409
00:56:32,660 --> 00:56:30,180
sworn in to her now and say you're still

1410
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:32,670
not he's still not marriage is and I and

1411
00:56:37,730 --> 00:56:36,180
look and has been Fred passed away and a

1412
00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:37,740
few years later sheets you took up for a

1413
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:39,030
while with a

1414
00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:42,450
called Rocky and now rocky used to be a

1415
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:47,580
limo driver for the mob and an ex-boxer

1416
00:56:54,140 --> 00:56:51,870
and she has a very strong New Jersey

1417
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,150
accent and she's fantastic and and and

1418
00:56:58,220 --> 00:56:56,880
you know and I think Fred might have had

1419
00:56:59,660 --> 00:56:58,230
a bit of dealings with you know with the

1420
00:57:02,360 --> 00:56:59,670
more I guess everyone has a new jersey

1421
00:57:03,830 --> 00:57:02,370
by the sound it is a and she's a

1422
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:03,840
colorful character now she's getting on

1423
00:57:06,740 --> 00:57:05,490
news now but when you're over there give

1424
00:57:08,060 --> 00:57:06,750
her a ring and also when you're NOS

1425
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:08,070
phagors if you could bring back some of

1426
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:09,930
those really colorful cards that like

1427
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:12,000
the rather flamboyant women tend to

1428
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:13,650
leave on the strip seal and boy and

1429
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:16,710
women yeah because they're just so funny

1430
00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:18,570
and they have the same sort of thing in

1431
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:21,180
London telephone boxes as well these are

1432
00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:22,770
the strange women who were born with

1433
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:25,620
stars instead of nipple apparently so

1434
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:27,900
yeah and they seem to make their living

1435
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:31,200
from dancing dancing yes yeah and and

1436
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:32,570
they just have such funny colorful

1437
00:57:36,830 --> 00:57:35,460
flamboyant a very fine point I remember

1438
00:57:39,140 --> 00:57:36,840
the first time I was in Vegas staying at

1439
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,150
the Flamingo the amazing meeting they

1440
00:57:45,860 --> 00:57:41,280
were everywhere on the streets you'd

1441
00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:45,870
find these car women both Richard was

1442
00:57:49,850 --> 00:57:47,670
looking it was for research purposes and

1443
00:57:51,110 --> 00:57:49,860
research episode but I must say staying

1444
00:57:52,550 --> 00:57:51,120
at the south point where we're going to

1445
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:52,560
be staying which is away from the strip

1446
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:54,450
I didn't I didn't see any but wait if we

1447
00:57:58,250 --> 00:57:56,160
go to the strip which we will to check

1448
00:58:02,450 --> 00:57:58,260
out Caesars Palace and although all that

1449
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:02,460
stuff oh yeah oh yeah no I would expect

1450
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:04,530
it at every conference and you like

1451
00:58:06,580 --> 00:58:05,310
you'll be in the middle of it now

1452
00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:06,590
because we're doing this in advance

1453
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:09,480
there's always some sort of de fufill

1454
00:58:13,340 --> 00:58:12,000
confusion or something going on was an

1455
00:58:15,470 --> 00:58:13,350
issue that comes up that wasn't

1456
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:15,480
previously considered will it be is

1457
00:58:18,050 --> 00:58:16,710
there something that's going to find out

1458
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:18,060
at Lee but we can't consider that now

1459
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:19,170
because we don't know what it is oh I

1460
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:20,790
know but what was it what happened last

1461
00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:21,930
time what was it the last one was the

1462
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,340
one that was an unexpected yeah awful

1463
00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:25,440
there was there was a photograph a

1464
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:27,030
controversial photograph in fact I

1465
00:58:34,490 --> 00:58:31,890
richardsaunders asleep under a table for

1466
00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:34,500
being interviewing somebody the best it

1467
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:37,020
is I can find it i'll make sure that it

1468
00:58:41,630 --> 00:58:38,970
gets highlighted on flickr for people to

1469
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:41,640
have a look at it is a picture of the

1470
00:58:45,350 --> 00:58:43,890
SGU team and i believe they're

1471
00:58:46,589 --> 00:58:45,360
interviewing Brian Dunning and in the

1472
00:58:48,329 --> 00:58:46,599
background of the picture

1473
00:58:52,979 --> 00:58:48,339
which is sort of snoring you there it is

1474
00:58:54,690 --> 00:58:52,989
there was a 380 Wow beautiful that is

1475
00:58:58,259 --> 00:58:54,700
gorgeous so I say that again with it no

1476
00:59:01,289 --> 00:58:58,269
no no we don't buzz enough for the a380

1477
00:59:05,509 --> 00:59:01,299
is just flying over in a Sydney please

1478
00:59:08,910 --> 00:59:05,519
don't be on it released on the outside

1479
00:59:10,650 --> 00:59:08,920
aerodynamically unsafe hang on time in

1480
00:59:12,029 --> 00:59:10,660
fact I just want to document be this

1481
00:59:16,349 --> 00:59:12,039
afternoon about how they make the wing

1482
00:59:17,579 --> 00:59:16,359
for the a380 yeah it was it was the

1483
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,589
obvious one of these I'm you know how

1484
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:19,359
things made and it was just and they

1485
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:20,799
just showed them making it the wing and

1486
00:59:26,729 --> 00:59:23,410
I was I was amazed that it was 24 hours

1487
00:59:28,229 --> 00:59:26,739
just to make the aluminium outside body

1488
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:28,239
for the wing without putting anything in

1489
00:59:32,579 --> 00:59:29,920
it and then they had the guy whose job

1490
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:32,589
it was and this is a true job to once

1491
00:59:36,779 --> 00:59:34,329
the wing is completely assembled he has

1492
00:59:39,150 --> 00:59:36,789
to walk backwards for two miles or our

1493
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:39,160
control unit that controls the cart the

1494
00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:41,200
huge cart that carries the wing where

1495
00:59:44,609 --> 00:59:42,940
it's going to be taken so his job is to

1496
00:59:46,289 --> 00:59:44,619
walk backwards a ruler of our control

1497
00:59:47,789 --> 00:59:46,299
and look if I was interviewing in the

1498
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:47,799
first question would have been okay how

1499
00:59:52,229 --> 00:59:50,890
many times you fall now because if

1500
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:52,239
you've got a couple of million dollar

1501
00:59:55,259 --> 00:59:53,650
wing in front of you you're not really

1502
00:59:57,539 --> 00:59:55,269
going to look behind you just in case

1503
00:59:59,489 --> 00:59:57,549
you drive Ewing off this one into a tree

1504
01:00:02,099 --> 00:59:59,499
or something gonna be very careful but

1505
01:00:04,049 --> 01:00:02,109
that video here so just think both those

1506
01:00:06,779 --> 01:00:04,059
wings some guy had to walk back to get

1507
01:00:09,029 --> 01:00:06,789
on a truck things you land on the

1508
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:09,039
skeptic phone Oh Miley has to just

1509
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,170
finish a story and Allah knows it

1510
01:00:16,829 --> 01:00:13,359
Richard Richard I was asleep and he

1511
01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:16,839
embarrassed us all there yet my excuse

1512
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:19,569
and as the traveler knows my excuses

1513
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:22,630
invalid one I had jet lag but it was

1514
01:00:27,299 --> 01:00:24,339
horrible it was so beautiful the way

1515
01:00:28,469 --> 01:00:27,309
that was a photo of SGU in full

1516
01:00:30,620 --> 01:00:28,479
interview mode and then in the

1517
01:00:33,569 --> 01:00:30,630
background you just call this dribbling

1518
01:00:35,789 --> 01:00:33,579
dribbling head sort of falling over

1519
01:00:38,609 --> 01:00:35,799
Richard Saunders was was that the one

1520
01:00:39,930 --> 01:00:38,619
where Rebecca got married no that's

1521
01:00:41,729 --> 01:00:39,940
actually the year before where I fell

1522
01:00:42,989 --> 01:00:41,739
asleep with jet lag okay but you fell

1523
01:00:44,459 --> 01:00:42,999
asleep during our wedding as well in it

1524
01:00:46,749 --> 01:00:44,469
I pro I fall asleep all the time over

1525
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,759
there cuz

1526
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:48,960
what is that guy from Australia on them

1527
01:00:53,690 --> 01:00:52,049
only thinking he's so sleepy and i have

1528
01:00:56,289 --> 01:00:53,700
a photo of you asleep on matrice

1529
01:00:59,809 --> 01:00:56,299
shoulder at the dragoncon d dragon yes

1530
01:01:01,970 --> 01:00:59,819
as well oh yeah completely yeah yeah

1531
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:01,980
you're really cute George her up that's

1532
01:01:07,390 --> 01:01:04,170
right yeah he's rubbing his face and

1533
01:01:09,470 --> 01:01:07,400
shine there ladies and gentlemen oh and

1534
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:09,480
we have a big announcement to make it

1535
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:10,529
because there's something been missing

1536
01:01:15,740 --> 01:01:13,250
from my life for many years now that

1537
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:15,750
apparently you've found um I did an

1538
01:01:19,759 --> 01:01:18,119
interview with someone who I think

1539
01:01:21,259 --> 01:01:19,769
everybody listening would be interested

1540
01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:21,269
in I mean look it might not be a great

1541
01:01:23,269 --> 01:01:22,470
interview but they would certainly be

1542
01:01:26,839 --> 01:01:23,279
interested in the person I was talking

1543
01:01:28,609 --> 01:01:26,849
to I used to record bits of main art

1544
01:01:30,019 --> 01:01:28,619
show because main art show is very

1545
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:30,029
important to me as a young teenager it

1546
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:31,650
was pretty much the only decent

1547
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:33,690
introduction to music and different

1548
01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:35,490
ideas across Australia they used to get

1549
01:01:39,470 --> 01:01:37,980
you and Richard Kingsmill show and a

1550
01:01:41,749 --> 01:01:39,480
variety of other people I was absolutely

1551
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:41,759
devastated when the airplane came past

1552
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:44,970
like a large juggernaut sweat my way

1553
01:01:50,839 --> 01:01:47,369
swift away the DJ so that I really

1554
01:01:52,940 --> 01:01:50,849
enjoyable and interesting if you have a

1555
01:01:54,529 --> 01:01:52,950
bit of background she's describing the

1556
01:01:57,140 --> 01:01:54,539
the early triple j network across

1557
01:01:58,609 --> 01:01:57,150
Australia which was it is very hard to

1558
01:02:00,740 --> 01:01:58,619
compare to other networks

1559
01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:00,750
internationally it's not it's not like

1560
01:02:06,499 --> 01:02:04,710
Radio one even the BBC no it's more it's

1561
01:02:08,749 --> 01:02:06,509
not like a big college radio station now

1562
01:02:09,799 --> 01:02:08,759
it's better organized than that yeah it

1563
01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:09,809
is probably when I'm on the best

1564
01:02:12,769 --> 01:02:11,369
registrations at the universe's for sure

1565
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:12,779
if introduced and get new stuff because

1566
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:15,210
at that time and get this list now there

1567
01:02:21,230 --> 01:02:19,440
was no playlist I would turn up perhaps

1568
01:02:22,279 --> 01:02:21,240
during either towards the end I was here

1569
01:02:23,930 --> 01:02:22,289
they were introduced to playlist where

1570
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:23,940
you had to play maybe two songs an hour

1571
01:02:29,299 --> 01:02:26,730
but for my 89 years I spent a triple j

1572
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:29,309
there was no playlist so I would turn up

1573
01:02:32,900 --> 01:02:31,529
and basically what I brought in my boxer

1574
01:02:35,180 --> 01:02:32,910
I could find in the wonderful dribbled a

1575
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:35,190
library I could play for three hours so

1576
01:02:41,089 --> 01:02:36,930
you could play Herb Alpert if you wanted

1577
01:02:42,650 --> 01:02:41,099
to and I did he does it looked at the

1578
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:42,660
whipped cream album and of the lights

1579
01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:44,490
came up many times I mean basically you

1580
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:46,740
know that it was during a time when when

1581
01:02:50,930 --> 01:02:49,049
when retro is in some way a little bit

1582
01:02:52,579 --> 01:02:50,940
news so we had move a dag Sam going so

1583
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:52,589
yeah got my x morning on work on a bit

1584
01:02:57,289 --> 01:02:55,920
of Casey inside or ever or something

1585
01:03:00,680 --> 01:02:57,299
like that and I think it was probably

1586
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,690
the only time i think in anywhere in the

1587
01:03:03,890 --> 01:03:02,160
history of this planet that you probably

1588
01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:03,900
would have heard the smiths next to

1589
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:05,640
Carly mando absolutely I don't think you

1590
01:03:08,269 --> 01:03:07,049
would have paid and yeah and I was

1591
01:03:10,579 --> 01:03:08,279
probably under play that kind of thing

1592
01:03:11,930 --> 01:03:10,589
cuz you know again I think some radio

1593
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:11,940
stations to play music should be like

1594
01:03:15,289 --> 01:03:13,650
podcasts it's where that you start

1595
01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:15,299
thinking about your music and stuff you

1596
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:16,680
don't just blindly accept what they're

1597
01:03:19,370 --> 01:03:17,880
playing as being their stuff it just

1598
01:03:21,140 --> 01:03:19,380
makes you think about what you like a

1599
01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:21,150
bit more yeah it was it was fabulous but

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01:03:24,650 --> 01:03:22,529
this is the interview that this person

1601
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:24,660
is this person I had on this morning at

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01:03:27,499 --> 01:03:26,400
very special and this reflected the kind

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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:27,509
of range that you had because you did

1604
01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:29,970
have all sorts of people coming in and I

1605
01:03:33,049 --> 01:03:31,200
used to love the comedians and the

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01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:33,059
writers in particular and you had

1607
01:03:37,700 --> 01:03:35,160
douglas adams and one of the things I

1608
01:03:40,579 --> 01:03:37,710
used to do was record occasional shows

1609
01:03:41,870 --> 01:03:40,589
of yours I often like hit record just as

1610
01:03:43,099 --> 01:03:41,880
I was running off to school so I'd come

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01:03:44,839 --> 01:03:43,109
home and listen to the second half of

1612
01:03:46,609 --> 01:03:44,849
the interview or whatever so I wouldn't

1613
01:03:49,069 --> 01:03:46,619
miss the whole show and I've got on a

1614
01:03:50,660 --> 01:03:49,079
tape from 1990 i think was in april of

1615
01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:50,670
douglas adams have you got the whole

1616
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:53,339
interview family if i do wow i believe i

1617
01:03:56,839 --> 01:03:55,170
do i'm going to find out and see look

1618
01:03:58,370 --> 01:03:56,849
and this interests me because i do have

1619
01:03:59,660 --> 01:03:58,380
this on reel-to-reel tape broadcast

1620
01:04:02,089 --> 01:03:59,670
quality somewhere but it's in my own

1621
01:04:03,859 --> 01:04:02,099
bedroom at my mom's place where every

1622
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:03,869
other tape that I made believe you me i

1623
01:04:07,279 --> 01:04:05,970
keep i do not throw anything away under

1624
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:07,289
the problem is it's all organized so i

1625
01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:10,049
can find it but yes douglas adams he was

1626
01:04:13,339 --> 01:04:11,700
making his last chance to see

1627
01:04:14,839 --> 01:04:13,349
documentary he missed rally at the time

1628
01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:14,849
which I believe stephen Fry's just

1629
01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:19,140
retraced his steps yeah yes and uh and I

1630
01:04:23,180 --> 01:04:21,630
could course I've with the book on hood

1631
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:23,190
the radio showing everything but it's a

1632
01:04:26,749 --> 01:04:25,049
good example of doing an interview where

1633
01:04:28,970 --> 01:04:26,759
you don't over prepare for it but the

1634
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,980
one thing i do remember very clearly was

1635
01:04:32,450 --> 01:04:30,960
that at that time or shortly before then

1636
01:04:35,569 --> 01:04:32,460
they've been a hitchhiker's guide to the

1637
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:35,579
galaxy game released on a cd-rom now of

1638
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:36,720
course i didn't have a computer back

1639
01:04:42,319 --> 01:04:38,910
then but it was got that but it was a

1640
01:04:44,539 --> 01:04:42,329
line command game i know that there was

1641
01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:44,549
no graphic user interface for it you

1642
01:04:48,259 --> 01:04:46,230
guys equate online you can find it on

1643
01:04:50,299 --> 01:04:48,269
the stone line and here's the one tip

1644
01:04:51,859 --> 01:04:50,309
that Douglas Adams gave me if you are

1645
01:04:55,099 --> 01:04:51,869
going to play that game if you want to

1646
01:04:56,870 --> 01:04:55,109
win it when before your house gets

1647
01:04:59,539 --> 01:04:56,880
demolished and you get taken away by the

1648
01:05:00,890 --> 01:04:59,549
Vogon and destructively before you leave

1649
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:00,900
their house don't

1650
01:05:05,570 --> 01:05:03,450
forget to take the junk mail with you

1651
01:05:08,210 --> 01:05:05,580
now it's a very small item but if you

1652
01:05:10,910 --> 01:05:08,220
don't take that junk mail with you it is

1653
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:10,920
used later in the game to distract some

1654
01:05:15,260 --> 01:05:13,200
poetry reading or there's some aliens

1655
01:05:16,670 --> 01:05:15,270
that it's used to distract the Vogons

1656
01:05:18,830 --> 01:05:16,680
later from reading their poetry to you

1657
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:18,840
say and if you don't do that you can't

1658
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:20,310
get to the next step in the game and in

1659
01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:22,290
fact in the same show I believe you said

1660
01:05:26,780 --> 01:05:23,790
that he tried to trick with another game

1661
01:05:29,150 --> 01:05:26,790
he was the creator of the plot for the

1662
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:29,160
computer game labyrinth which is all

1663
01:05:33,770 --> 01:05:30,930
those Jim Henson and David Bowie fans

1664
01:05:35,090 --> 01:05:33,780
out there no it's fabulous film which

1665
01:05:37,610 --> 01:05:35,100
starred jennifer connelly when she was a

1666
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:37,620
young lass in that he did exactly the

1667
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:40,170
same thing where if you fail to take I

1668
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:41,760
think it was the quarters of the coins

1669
01:05:46,850 --> 01:05:44,970
or no it was a plank of wood if you fail

1670
01:05:49,460 --> 01:05:46,860
to take a plank of wood from the very

1671
01:05:51,140 --> 01:05:49,470
beginning of the game you messed up the

1672
01:05:52,940 --> 01:05:51,150
rest of the game so he was a very cheeky

1673
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:52,950
fellow depakote making sure you and the

1674
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:54,240
only of the game I know he was attached

1675
01:05:57,830 --> 01:05:55,740
to and I know this because every time

1676
01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:57,840
you go to the Manning bar in Sydney to

1677
01:06:02,450 --> 01:06:00,000
see a band you'll see to the right side

1678
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:02,460
of the stage an enormous 12-foot poster

1679
01:06:07,370 --> 01:06:05,370
of starship titanic yes that he in fact

1680
01:06:09,350 --> 01:06:07,380
at was involved with witness members of

1681
01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:09,360
monty python as well and it's got his

1682
01:06:15,620 --> 01:06:12,780
huge signature across it and it's bolted

1683
01:06:16,850 --> 01:06:15,630
down and it's under glass they know what

1684
01:06:18,980 --> 01:06:16,860
they know what uni students are like

1685
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:18,990
it's not going anywhere but it's well

1686
01:06:22,250 --> 01:06:20,370
worth go and have a look at his shoes

1687
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:22,260
signature and he's got the small he

1688
01:06:26,570 --> 01:06:24,810
actually signed a photo to me I said to

1689
01:06:30,980 --> 01:06:26,580
main and a very unusual way to wake up

1690
01:06:32,810 --> 01:06:30,990
and any time I'm feeling down I look at

1691
01:06:35,390 --> 01:06:32,820
that and to know that I'm a Douglas

1692
01:06:37,010 --> 01:06:35,400
Adams feel unusual even for micro second

1693
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:37,020
means I've succeeded on this planet oh

1694
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:39,210
it was it was a great interview and the

1695
01:06:42,530 --> 01:06:40,770
people who find in had questions from

1696
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:42,540
all over and look and if I ever find

1697
01:06:46,910 --> 01:06:44,370
that I and if you can get that to me

1698
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:46,920
that that will be transcribed next now

1699
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:48,240
I've actually turn that into an audio

1700
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:50,730
podcast and I'll sound incredibly young

1701
01:06:57,730 --> 01:06:56,799
Douglas will sound like he's just gotten

1702
01:07:00,520 --> 01:06:57,740
up and doesn't know what the hell he's

1703
01:07:02,289 --> 01:07:00,530
going off into and I do remember he

1704
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:02,299
actually did request midnight oil that

1705
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:03,680
was his a favorite Australian band at

1706
01:07:08,349 --> 01:07:06,530
the time yeah so there you go the

1707
01:07:09,849 --> 01:07:08,359
episode that's that's mine that's a

1708
01:07:11,260 --> 01:07:09,859
closed oval ever got to anyone with a

1709
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:11,270
brain the size of a spaceship I think

1710
01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:14,089
purple compositions of a planet mmm

1711
01:07:18,609 --> 01:07:17,119
marvin the paranoid and yes so thank you

1712
01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:18,619
for being you could get that tape will

1713
01:07:21,849 --> 01:07:20,270
make sure like that and that's Maynard

1714
01:07:23,380 --> 01:07:21,859
condo you if you want to check out other

1715
01:07:24,460 --> 01:07:23,390
stuff like that or you just want to tell

1716
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:24,470
me to stop listen to stuff like no

1717
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:26,210
agenda but I won't because I have it I

1718
01:07:29,620 --> 01:07:28,130
know the truth is there I know that John

1719
01:07:33,099 --> 01:07:29,630
and Adam are going to save something I'm

1720
01:07:34,990 --> 01:07:33,109
not oh yes I just don't say before we

1721
01:07:36,370 --> 01:07:35,000
wrap it up Charlie I noticed that you

1722
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:36,380
have a URL you'd like to give up their

1723
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,930
way back earlier in this I mentioned the

1724
01:07:41,950 --> 01:07:40,400
telephone Institute for Child Health

1725
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:41,960
Research and if you'd like to find out

1726
01:07:46,210 --> 01:07:44,329
more information about the lecture that

1727
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:46,220
was given by dr. Fiona Stanley and the

1728
01:07:52,779 --> 01:07:50,329
other people involved head to WWE Health

1729
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:52,789
Research Comte you and they have

1730
01:07:56,620 --> 01:07:54,319
information they pass it on to people

1731
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:56,630
who really need to know it because I

1732
01:08:00,400 --> 01:07:59,119
know that there's a lot of people on the

1733
01:08:01,779 --> 01:08:00,410
on the edge on the verge they're

1734
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,789
questioning they want to find out more

1735
01:08:05,980 --> 01:08:03,920
information and we can't just let the

1736
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:05,990
avian run roughshod over everything

1737
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:08,089
don't let me follow them on Twitter as

1738
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:10,160
welcome you stay telethon institute yeah

1739
01:08:12,670 --> 01:08:11,450
they've been very kind and they said we

1740
01:08:15,339 --> 01:08:12,680
can use some of the audio from the

1741
01:08:16,990 --> 01:08:15,349
lecture that we went hopefully all right

1742
01:08:18,490 --> 01:08:17,000
well dr. H I think it's time that you

1743
01:08:20,289 --> 01:08:18,500
and I jump into our time machine and

1744
01:08:23,019 --> 01:08:20,299
head back to the future where we're at

1745
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:23,029
Las Vegas yeah let's do that each of

1746
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:25,730
minus 16 hours by the way yeah that's

1747
01:08:31,059 --> 01:08:28,670
not skinny to that my breakfast at the

1748
01:08:35,070 --> 01:08:31,069
same time in two different places we get

1749
01:08:37,870 --> 01:08:35,080
i get to Tuesday's next week and no no

1750
01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:37,880
wednesday the wake up some pierre that

1751
01:08:41,919 --> 01:08:39,859
is pretty crazy so but in the meantime

1752
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:41,929
I'd certainly like to think may not for

1753
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:43,250
coming along once again thank you me

1754
01:08:46,329 --> 01:08:44,960
it's my pleasure to be here and I think

1755
01:08:47,620 --> 01:08:46,339
you are both going to come back change

1756
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:47,630
people but it cliff definitely few have

1757
01:08:53,180 --> 01:08:50,490
to share a room at Brian darling again

1758
01:08:55,340 --> 01:08:53,190
kind of the best oh I can do Hillary's

1759
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:55,350
actually can I just say he tweeted today

1760
01:09:04,070 --> 01:08:58,650
oh maybe I should book my room for Tam

1761
01:09:06,650 --> 01:09:04,080
Vegas I saw that it starts unfinished

1762
01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:06,660
job I him sleep on her table yeah boy

1763
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:08,460
casino he won't have any trouble getting

1764
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:11,520
her back and I like is that the pizza

1765
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:13,890
yeah oh wow that's good timing and I'd

1766
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:15,810
like to thank kind of a picture

1767
01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:18,090
announcement and an underpaid minimum

1768
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:20,430
wage person is the livings delivering

1769
01:09:27,410 --> 01:09:25,650
some suspect equipment why Rachel runs

1770
01:09:29,300 --> 01:09:27,420
out the door to answer the pizza answer

1771
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:29,310
the pizza what's the question is the

1772
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:31,650
question we say thank you too Kylie

1773
01:09:36,710 --> 01:09:34,410
Sturgis you're very welcome Ali your

1774
01:09:38,570 --> 01:09:36,720
podcast just to wrap things up is going

1775
01:09:41,180 --> 01:09:38,580
very well it's it's going extremely well

1776
01:09:43,310 --> 01:09:41,190
the tokens unity token skeptic at token

1777
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:43,320
skeptical and now you're getting a lot

1778
01:09:47,870 --> 01:09:45,090
of listeners which is fabulous do to

1779
01:09:49,730 --> 01:09:47,880
find out about so here the pizzas

1780
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:49,740
they've arrived on the townhouse so I

1781
01:09:56,990 --> 01:09:52,770
say cheers everybody and see you use a

1782
01:10:35,960 --> 01:09:57,000
clicking effective glasses this podcast

1783
01:10:39,410 --> 01:10:37,850
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1784
01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:39,420
zone we're still a mess nice Hawaiian

1785
01:10:45,530 --> 01:10:43,380
the restaurant after town and coming up

1786
01:10:47,780 --> 01:10:45,540
the next all over the next couple of

1787
01:10:50,690 --> 01:10:47,790
months dr. H eat lots of interviews I

1788
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:50,700
got some fantastic stuff can i yeah this

1789
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:52,050
is a preview of what we've got coming up

1790
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:56,640
okay so i've got i got Simon sting I've

1791
01:11:00,520 --> 01:10:57,930
got half an hour with Simon seeing

1792
01:11:02,990 --> 01:11:00,530
telling us about the latest with the BCA

1793
01:11:05,420 --> 01:11:03,000
chiropractic fallout got a full plate

1794
01:11:08,650 --> 01:11:05,430
we've got Ben Radford talking about

1795
01:11:11,660 --> 01:11:08,660
chicka chicka coppers and other

1796
01:11:14,540 --> 01:11:11,670
cryptozoology I've got Bruce we're just

1797
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:14,550
talking about the dowsing divining rods

1798
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:17,730
in Afghanistan and Iraq banner checks

1799
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:19,770
coming out a check with God captain

1800
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:24,000
disillusion mr. Daisy yesterday t look

1801
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:26,880
listeners it goes on I'm an odd so much

1802
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:29,520
that way all right well I think will let

1803
01:11:34,010 --> 01:11:31,050
our listeners now relax and go to bed

1804
01:11:36,410 --> 01:11:34,020
and we'll catch up with you next week so

1805
01:11:38,270 --> 01:11:36,420
for now this is Richard Saunders and dr.

1806
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:38,280
ray j signing off in from Las Vegas

1807
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:44,850
you've been listening to the skeptic

1808
01:11:52,650 --> 01:11:48,880
zone visit her website at www skeptics

1809
01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:52,660
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